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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:16 am 
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I'm tempted to get them for use as Black Numenorean captains

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:10 pm 
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Any news as to when the third set will be released?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:28 pm 
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Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Haven't the Ringwraiths always been fairly big, imposing models? They should certainly be on the usual 25mm.


I think the old Ringwraiths used to be human sized. 25 mm tall, give or take. These look like they are at least 35 mm. I was tempted to use them as evil human captains, but if they are like ogre size that kind of does not work.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:54 am 
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Alhvar wrote:
Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Haven't the Ringwraiths always been fairly big, imposing models? They should certainly be on the usual 25mm.

I think the old Ringwraiths used to be human sized. 25 mm tall, give or take. These look like they are at least 35 mm. I was tempted to use them as evil human captains, but if they are like ogre size that kind of does not work.

This was the only picture I could find, but illustrates my point well enough, Khamul is certainly a bit taller than the plastic Minas Tirith bloke, although part of that may be the common metal vs plastic discrepancy. Mouth of Sauron is quite large too I think, so I'm still tempted to have one of these as a Black Numenorean. Having now seen a few more pictures of the new Dol Guldur wraiths however, those certainly are substantially bigger, towering over normal infantry. Can't remember if that was the case in the films too...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:11 am 
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Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Alhvar wrote:
Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Haven't the Ringwraiths always been fairly big, imposing models? They should certainly be on the usual 25mm.

I think the old Ringwraiths used to be human sized. 25 mm tall, give or take. These look like they are at least 35 mm. I was tempted to use them as evil human captains, but if they are like ogre size that kind of does not work.

This was the only picture I could find, but illustrates my point well enough, Khamul is certainly a bit taller than the plastic Minas Tirith bloke, although part of that may be the common metal vs plastic discrepancy. Mouth of Sauron is quite large too I think, so I'm still tempted to have one of these as a Black Numenorean. Having now seen a few more pictures of the new Dol Guldur wraiths however, those certainly are substantially bigger, towering over normal infantry. Can't remember if that was the case in the films too...

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Ah, yes. I think we see each others points now. Have you found any pictures of the new nazguls next to normal humans? I am really curious what that would look like.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:52 pm 
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Yes, somebody on the GBHL Facebook group had pictures of them next to Eomer on foot (maybe more with others). Will see if I can find them later today. :)

EDIT: Found 'em. They're on exceptionally tall bases, so not great as scale comparisons go, but they certaintly aren't small...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:47 pm 
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Thanks for an illuminating picture! If you disregard the base, it looks like they are only about 7 feet tall. That is an unusual height for a human, but it is no way an impossibility. I think they could work as humans. I myself am considering using new Khamul as the Easterling emperor.
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If only they were available in a local shop to just have a look at them in person! I'm very much on the fence after seeing these pictures. Could just about work, or not quite.
Come to think of it, if using one as a Black Numenorean Marshall as I was thinking of, a tall figure is perfect...
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maybe they were designed to be comparatively taller on purpose, to either make them stand out more or convey the 'character' of how evil they are? The FW character series models all have these optional scenic bases which will make them seem larger & i'd be tempted not to use these particular ones as it distracts from the models themselves.
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I believe I read in a piece by Tolkien that the ringwraiths were taller than mortals, and that some of the mortal races, especially in the early ages, were quite tall as well. At any rate, they're spirits.. There has been scale creep within the LoTR range pretty much since its inception. I'm looking at my elves, whose captains are a head larger and more robust than their plastic counterparts. Fat elves? No, I dare say, it's scale creep.

Nevertheless, I do enjoy painting in heroic scale. It's nice to paint a Reaper mini in among all the LoTR armies once in a while.

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Got somebody to make some extra scale shots for me (more horizontal and on normal bases):

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Thank you for the pictures. The nazgul does not look that much taller than the ranger. The difference looks about the same as the difference between Elendil and Men of Gondor.
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