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Author:  Cave Dragon [ Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  2 handed weapon feinting

So... If I feint, but use my sword as a two-handed weapon, does the re-roll of a one apply to the natural roll or the roll after bonuses.
Also, any idea how to submit this question for a FAQ?

Author:  Wan Shi Tong [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

I guess you'd have to email GW or call their support line and get an email for the ME team in order to get them to answer it in the faq.

Author:  tasadur [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

The rules state that you can re-rol rolls of a 1. This means the natural dice result. Even with the +1 modifier the roll is still a 1 but counts as a 2 for the purpose of wounding the opponent.

Author:  Wan Shi Tong [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

I don't mean to sound rude but how do you know that is what it means? The wording under the two-handed section implies that the To Wound role gets a +1 to the result shown on the die, not +1 to the result when applied to the chart. The feinting role also does not say anything about the 1 being natural. Was their an old faq that I missed? Is this occurrence just so common with other games that it is a generally excepted interpretation that needs no explanation?

Author:  Cave Dragon [ Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

I mean, the natural roll would seem logical, otherwise you just destroyed your fight value for nothing... On the other hand, Anduril is now failing on 2s only.

Author:  Voyager360 [ Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

Good question.

You can send any queries to:
middle-earthfaq@gwplc.com

as can be found on:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

Author:  Cave Dragon [ Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:40 am ]
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Thanks! I could not find a SBG e-mail.

Author:  Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

Let us know what they send back!

Author:  Cave Dragon [ Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

Nothing yet, but hopefully it will be in the next FAQ.

Author:  Cave Dragon [ Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:40 pm ]
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"We've forwarded this to middle-earthfaq@gwplc.com to be considered for the next FAQ. In the future, feel free to send your questions there!
Regards
Nick
Community Team "
The response will hopefully be in a FAQ.

Author:  Wan Shi Tong [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

Progress! Very good. Thank you for doing the leg work Cave Dragon.

Author:  Cave Dragon [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

;)

Author:  Asamu [ Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

I'd assume they'll keep it consistent across the games. In both AoS and 40k, re-rolls always happen before modifiers, despite the weird situations that can come up, where you can't re-roll a roll that would fail after the modifiers, despite the rule allowing you to re-roll "all failed rolls."

Author:  Aldaron [ Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

I'd clearly say, if you throw 1 it's a 1. Everything afterwards are just Boni.
In the german rulebook, it's clearly stated at some points, that you have a "3-throw" or a "5-throw" where the dice is shown, thats your throw, and afterwards you modify. (on the other hand: I had some bad experiences with the german translation lately)

Author:  Cave Dragon [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

Ah, thank you! Now to spam 2-handed Anduril with feinting... Fear me.

Author:  Wan Shi Tong [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

I am disappointed that the SBG team did not take the time to clear it up officially with the recent FAQ. Since the general consensuses that the affects are applied after rerolls I will treat it as such until I hear any better arguments. I'll have to keep it in mind with my elves, clansmen, and especially Hurin the Tall in the future.

Author:  Gundalad [ Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 handed weapon feinting

Even if you were str10 and the target was Defense 1 you would usually need a 3+ to wound, if you two-handed the attack the +1 to wound would make this a 2+ to wound and if you feinted then you would reroll a 1 for a single extra chance. I’m guessing the confusion is in saying that the actual dice roll is modified to a different number which no longer counts as rolling a 1, but it’s the number you need that is modified imo not the dice roll.

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